Can someone completely breakdown the DONZI VIN Number

[Scott Heidt]

Hey I recently read an article on Auto Vin numbers and how they are facing a crisis of running out of numbers by 2011.

They also broke down what the vin numbers tell about a particulat car. I just was curious to know what all those numbers and letters indicate for a Donzi. That way when I look at a Donzi I can look at that number and be more informed. Thanks!

[mattyboy]

mine is
16-410

16 hull 410th made :tongue: hehehe simple isn't it :p

now Dr Dan's teal monster would be a different story

Donzi by Chris Craft????? no way!!!
yes way, and built well too ;)


Scott the answer is gonna give you a headache

Matty

[GKricheldorf]

There is this thread and i remember another that seemed to have more info, but do not remember who posted it.

http://www.donzi.net/forums/showthread.php?t=11&highlight=hull+number

[EricG]

Here's a quick breakdown of the Serial number meanings if you don't want to read that mess I posted a few years back :rolleyes: :biggrin:

The Chisholm Era:
My 1976 18 = DMR185550776
DMR = Donzi Marine
18 = Model
555 = Hull Number
07 = July - Month of Production
76 = Model Year

The Genth Era:
My old Z21 = DMRZA174J788

DMR = Donzi Marine
ZA = Model = Z21
174 = Hull Number
J = October - Month of Production (A=Jan through L=December)
7 = Year of Production 1987
88 = Model Year

Hopefully that helps....

-EG
"Serial # geek"

[Scott Heidt]

Thanks Eric!

I got what I needed for my boat. DMR200691281

DMR= Donzi! Woo Hoo! Whew! This aint no Bayliner! :)
20 = 20' Hornet II
069= Hull number 69
12 = Production Month December
81 = Model Year 1981

Mine was easy. I went and browsed the Registry. There are some WACKY numbers. Yikes!

DMRCB124B787
DNAC2007F001
MCZ167010681

And those are the halfway normal ones!

Just for fun! If anyone has a wacky Number post it and we will see if we can decifer it! We can really test the Donzi Think Tank! :)

[Scott Heidt]

Oh quick question? Is the hull number for that year or the number for that production line. I.e. is mine the 69th Hornet or the 69th for that year?

[EricG]

I'm not sure on the current stuff (I haven't really looked into it), but it appears that through the late 80's the hull #'s were for the entire run, not just the year.

-EG

[HyperDonzi]

All I know- on current models the last 2 digits are the year made.

Ours-
AGCN2407A090 <<Made in 90.

[Scott Heidt]

All I know- on current models the last 2 digits are the year made.

Ours-
AGCN2407A090 <<Made in 90.


AGC... That's a '90 Aquasport! :) Just kidding!

Yet another crazy number!

[HyperDonzi]

I should have posted it isnt a Donzi.

[catch 22]

These are mine.????? DNAC2001E798. Any idea. :confused:

[Scott Heidt]

Ohh crap, someone sold you a bogus Donzi.. if you insist, I will take it off your hands... ;)


LOL!

[Scott Heidt]

These are mine.????? DNAC2001E798. Any idea. :confused:


See I can't figure what the DNA is

DNA = ? Donzi N____ A_____
C2 = Maybe Classic 22
001 = Hull # 001
E = Production Month May
7 = Production Year 1997
98 = Model Year 1998

Just a WAG! Wow if this is right you had the first one!

[gcarter]

Ohh crap, someone sold you a bogus Donzi.. if you insist, I will take it off your hands... ;)
Oh no you don't! I've got first right of refusal!

George :wavey:

[gcarter]

See I can't figure what the DNA is

DNA = ? Donzi N____ A_____
C2 = Maybe Classic 22
001 = Hull # 001
E = Production Month May
7 = Production Year 1997
98 = Model Year 1998

Just a WAG! Wow if this is right you had the first one!
I think Donzigo posted a few months ago, the hull number represents the production in a particular mold. Is that correct?

George

[Last Tango]

DNA = the stuff from which ALL OTHER performance boats were spawned.
Actually, modern hull numbers start with 3 letters that designate the company. In this case, DNA probably refers to DoNzi, American Marine Holdings (parent company). If you look at other boats hull numbers, they work the same way. Sometimes it helps to know who the parent company is. For instance many popular boat comapnies are actually owned by Brunswick Corporation and so a B appears in the first three letters. These three letters follow the same "logic" as airport designators. Sometimes it is obvious, sometimes it isn't.

[DoTheMath]

Mine: DNAC8001E304, soooo....

DNA = Donzi American Marine
C8 = Classic 18
001 = Ummm #1?
E3= May 3, 13?
04 = 2004 MY.

Or at least that is my eductaed guess based on the previous info.;)

[EricG]

Mine: DNAC8001E304, soooo....

DNA = Donzi American Marine
C8 = Classic 18
001 = Ummm #1?
E3= May 3, 13?
04 = 2004 MY.

Or at least that is my eductaed guess based on the previous info.;)

I think you are right...yours is Hull #1 for the 2004 Model Year. I read the E3 to Mean it was built in May 2003...which would also support the theory of Hull #1 for 2004.

I wonder when they started "resetting" the hull # count at each year? Time for some more reasearch... :idea:

EG

[ChromeGorilla]

OK here's my HIN

DNAC2002E405

DNA Donzi

C2 22 classic

002 2nd one for the year

E4 ???

05 year

Wonder what E4 is..... month built??? May 04...thats when it was started.

[Scott Heidt]

OK here's my HIN

DNAC2002E405

DNA Donzi

C2 22 classic

002 2nd one for the year

E4 ???

05 year

Wonder what E4 is..... month built??? May 04...thats when it was started.
Production Month E= May 4= 2004

[catch 22]

Hi everyone, OK here it goes... I spoke with Bob at DONZI today and I told him that I had a 1998 22 classic and wanted some info on the HIN#. Before I gave him the #, he said does it start out with DNA. He then said the:
D=DONZI
NA= Coast Guard assigned letters for the mold or style
C2= Classic 22
001= 1st one built
E= May
7= Year it was built
98= model year 1998
P.S. So Scott It's not a Bogus Donzi after all. :biggrin.: :biggrin.: I think I'll keep her. :wavey:

[BabyDonzi]

Cool.........

So DNAZ2029L900 means fix or repair daily?
Just kidding!!

Donzi ZX 22

#29

Dec. 99 for the 2000 model year!
Hey, you can teach an old dog new tricks!

[DoTheMath]

NICE! #2 of 2005! Any significant changes for 05 over the 04's? (besides the price? :biggrin: )




OK here's my HIN

DNAC2002E405

DNA Donzi

C2 22 classic

002 2nd one for the year

E4 ???

05 year

Wonder what E4 is..... month built??? May 04...thats when it was started.

[Last Tango]

Fresh out of the July 2004 BoatUS magazine is an article on pages 42 and 43 about the current 12 digit HIN (Hull Identification Number).
ABC45678A484 or ABC 45678 A4 84
ABC is the Manufacturers Identification Code assigned by the USCG.

45678 Serial number - letters, numbers, or both except for the letters I, O, Q (no two serial numbers alike)

A4 Date (month & year) of the certification or manufacture -
A-L correspond directly to Jan-Dec (I = Sept)

84 Model Year

[chip w]

I was curious about my VIN number and found this old thread on VIN's. Interesting, one of the number's posted earlier is mine, but it wasn't decoded. The number is MCZ167010681. I think I get part of this, 16 feet, hull #701. Does anyone know what the rest means?

[Lenny]

Chip, I don't know what year your boat is, so I can't help much, BUT, the 16701 would be the key i believe. None of what you posted is a DONZI number. It has been retitled by a particular State.

The 16 is the length followed by the hull number. I can't get the "Registry" at the top of the page to work, (software I guess) but when it does, search by hull number and you will located the year (approxiamately) of your boat.

It was probably C16-701 in days gone by. ("C" stands for Chisholm (ownership) in this case)

[chip w]

Titled as a '69. HM 302 w/Alpha 250. Left hand steering. Hope this helps.

[Lenny]

Volvo 250 or Alpha 888 or something? Is the drive white or black ;)

'69 is old, and the Volvo 250 fits the era. Need some pics CHIP :yes: :D :D :)

[mattyboy]

a 69 would not have a number like that unless it was done by an outside agency like state DMV when registering or something a 69 would be 16-xxx
the HIN numbers weren't mandated til 73 is any history available on this boat Chip?? where it came from when my 16 was registered no hull number was available so the hull number is now the reg number according to ny dmv
so my hull number is

NY 1506 FU

[Donzigo]

More tidbits of info - As I understand it, the "out of the mold number" does not corresond with the model year. Unlike the car business, the boat manufacturer is interested in the number of times the mold has been used until he has to retrofit or rebuild it, so that the boats don't begin to come out of the mold mis-shaped. Therefore, the hull number does not correlate with model year. Just because they change to a new year, they don't start with new hull numbers for that year.

[chip w]

Sorry, I meant Volvo 250. Don't know what I was thinking. The outdrive was origanally ****e. The previous owner reapainted it black. It's a Florida registration and the history I have on it was that the previous owner, in St. Pete, FL, bought it from someone in Lake Mary, FL. It was in pretty bad shape when he bought it, which I think was around 2000 or 2001. The owner prior to that had owned for many years. Prior to that I'm not sure.

The last owner painted the outdrive during a cosmetic restoration. They took the cap off the hull and replaced all wood that had dry rot, including what was on the bottom of the cap. They did a nice job, but unfortunately the hull number on the back of the dash is no longer there. We finished the restoration by doing the engine compartment, wiring, plumbing and a few other odds and ends that needed to be done. Like change the Carter 750 to a Holloy 550. It was over carburated and pretty sluggish out of the hole.

Anyway, that's most of the history that I have. Attached are a couple of pictures. (When we did the engine compartment we added the stripes on the deck and sides, just don't have pics yet.) The vents are different then what I've seen on most years, however, Performance Plus Marine in St. Pete has a '68 16 Claasic with the same vents. They're in the attached pictures.

Chip

[chip w]

One more piece of info. On the top of the outdrive, with the patten # is a listing of "PZ No. 2511041". Maybe that will help.

OK, the pictures were previously posted in the "16 Classics, Let's see them" string. How do I show them here again?

[Lenny]

http://www.donzi.net/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=6733

http://www.donzi.net/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=6734

[mattyboy]

""One more piece of info. On the top of the outdrive, with the patten # is a listing of "PZ No. 2511041". Maybe that will help.""

yeah it does that's a volvo 250 serial number not a 280 more in line with a 69 than a 280

just some observations

with the lack of any clam shell vents it is a possibility that the boat is older than a 69, but they could have been glassed over and the ones up front added I seem to remember an old 16 with a windshield and vents up front in europe maybe??

does the boat have an HVAC type vent under the rear seat?? where is your blower exhaust??

the rear vent with the light does it have holes in the deck under it or is it just screwed down ontop of the glass

also get up near the bow eye with a flashlight and check for numbers there

those are some hints as to what viintage the boat is

do your lift rings whistle when you're under way??? they're 90 degrees off ;)

hope that helps

[chip w]

There is a HVAC vent under the rear seat and the vents under the light are open. The bottom of the deck had the wood stripped out and replaced when they did the restoration, so there is not a number there (I looked a few months ago for that).

As far as the lift rings whistling, I can't tell, the boats too loud to hear that. (Or maybe my hearing's shot!:rolleyes:

What ever it turns out to be, I love the boat. The way it runs right now, if I hit it hard at around 3200 rpm's, it will make it a little squirlly! Love it !!! :hyper: :hyper: :hyper:

[mattyboy]

I would think more like a pre 67 boat, with that info, can you see any covered up exhaust holes on the transom??if so it might have started as an eaton boat and was repowered when the 250 came out
did they paint the inside of the hull the numbers written by the bow eye are on the hull not the deck.

you would probably pick up a 1mph or so if you straightened out the lift rings aerodynamic drag you know ;)

it's good to have a donzi, eh!!!!! :)

[chip w]

OK, I just climbed in under the bow and here's what I found: some old sanding discs and wet, soggy fiberglass dust from when the work was done, :puke: a new floation cushion still in the bag (can use that to float around in the lake on:biggrin: , but no number on the hull. Also found that one of the ski's slid forward last weekend and cut the wires to the bow light. Gotta fix that tomorrow.

Hey, who knows :confused:, maybe it's a clone. It still keeps me smilin'!

And I'll need to change those lift rings. I need that extra 1 mph to beat my buddies Sleekcraft (or so he thinks)!

[Edoardo18Classic]

Hello
I crawled under the dash of my Classic 18 and found the 3 numbers in black marker for the hull .
It shows " -567 ".

Looking at the whole dash, I notice the numbers start right before the rectangular hole that was cut for the small instrument panel.

There I can notice something that looks like a O or letter C chopped, right at the edge of the cut on the left side (looking backwards at the boat), and on the right side edge where the hole ends, there is a dash (-) right before the 3 numbers indicated above.

I have tryed removing the paint in the transom to uncover the HIN calculationg its correct position based on a 1995 hull, but nothing appeared even though I reached the fiberglass under the gelcoat.

It is presumed mu hull is 1978 or 79 from talking to people that knew the boat back then, but its uncertain. The boat is a yellow and white hull, left side helm, that use to have an old Volvo Penta based on large transon hole (no engine/drive).

Is there a way to determine which year this hull was fabricated?
Thanks for any comments or suggestions

[wwahl]

Boat title #9304008501
Registration Number #WN 5499 NC
HIN #DMRCA983H788
Boat hull ID #DMRCA983H788
These are all the numbers on my boat. Which one might be the VIN?

[mattyboy]

no VIN those are for cars boats use HIN Hull Identification Number

HIN #DMRCA983H788
Boat hull ID #DMRCA983H788


DMR= Donzi Marine Racing

CA= 18 classic

983 + 983rd 18 classic hull produced

H7= Aug 87 certification date

88= Model year 1988


IT's a RED HEAD

[tomjones]

Good Afternoon Donzi faithful- question- is this a valid HIN DMRZC1760787? AND was there more than one place the HIN was on the hull (inside somewhere....I think I have looked EVERYWHERE!!!

[tomjones]

Donzi Marine Racing
ZC- is this the correct code for a Z-25?
176- 176th produced?
O7 or 07- date code for a month in 1987
87 model year?
Appreciate your comments and confirmation
Happy Holidays,
Tom