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harbormaster
01-05-2003, 07:43 AM
This is for all the folks born in the 70's that do not remember this, and didn't have to bear the burden, that our fathers, mothers, and older brothers and sisters had to bear. Jane Fonda is being honored as one of the "100 Women of the Century." Unfortunately, many have forgotten and still countless others have never known how Ms. Fonda betrayed not only the idea of our country but specific men who served and sacrificed during
Vietnam.

The first part of this is from an F-4E pilot. The pilot's name is Jerry Driscoll, a River Rat. In 1968, the former Commandant of the USAF
Survival School was a POW in Ho Lo Prison-the "Hanoi Hilton." Dragged from a stinking cesspit of a cell, cleaned, fed, and dressed in clean PJ's, he
was ordered to describe for a visiting American "Peace Activist" the "lenient and humane treatment" he'd received. He spat at Ms. Fonda, was clubbed, and dragged away.

During the subsequent beating, he fell forward upon the camp Commandant's feet, which sent that officer berserk. In '78, the AF Col. still suffered from double vision (which permanently ended his flying days) from the Vietnamese Col.'s frenzied application of a wooden baton. From 1963-65, Col. Larry Carrigan was in the 47FW/DO (F-4E's). He spent 6 years in the "Hilton"- the first three of which he was "missing in action". His wife lived on faith that he was still alive. His group, too, got the cleaned, fed, clothed routine in preparation for a "peace delegation" visit.

They, however, had time and devised a plan to get word to the world that they still survived. Each man secreted a tiny piece of paper, with his SSN on it, in the palm of his hand. When paraded before Ms. Fonda and a cameraman, she walked the line, shaking each man's hand and asking little encouraging snippets like: "Aren't you sorry you bombed babies?" and "Are you grateful for the humane treatment from your benevolent captors?" Believing this HAD to be an act, they each palmed her their sliver of paper.

She took them all without missing a beat. At the end of the line and once the camera stopped rolling, to the shocked disbelief of the POWs, she turned to the officer in charge and handed him the little pile of papers. Three men died from the subsequent beatings. Col. Carrigan was almost number four but he survived, which is the only reason we know about her actions that day.

I was a civilian economic development advisor in Vietnam, and was captured by the North Vietnamese communists in South Vietnam in 1968, and held for over 5 years. I spent 27 months in solitary confinement, one year in a cage in Cambodia, and one year in a "black box" in Hanoi. My North Vietnamese captors deliberately poisoned and murdered a female missionary, a nurse in a leprosarium in Ban me Thuot, South Vietnam, whom I buried in the jungle near the Cambodian border.

At one time, I was weighing approximately 90 lbs. (My normal weight is 170 lbs.) We were Jane Fonda's "war criminals."

When Jane Fonda was in Hanoi, I was asked by the camp communist political officer if I would be willing to meet with Jane Fonda. I said yes, for I would like to tell her about the real treatment we POWs received different from the treatment purported by the North Vietnamese, and parroted by Jane Fonda, as "humane and lenient." Because of this, I spent three days on a rocky floor on my knees with outstretched arms with a large amount of steel placed on my hands, and beaten with a bamboo cane till my arms dipped.

I had the opportunity to meet with Jane Fonda for a couple of hours after I was released. I asked her if she would be willing to debate me on TV.
She did not answer me.

This does not exemplify someone who should be honored as part of "100 Years of Great Women." Lest we forget..."100 years of great women" should never include a traitor whose hands are covered with the blood of so many patriots. There are few things I have strong visceral reactions to, but Hanoi Jane's participation in blatant treason, is one of them.

Please take the time to forward to as many people as you possibly can. It will eventually end up on her computer and she needs to know that we will never forget.

HP 600SC
01-05-2003, 07:48 AM
Scot, I will pass it on!.........
I remember that "American traitor Bitch!
Ted

pmreed
01-05-2003, 07:55 AM
I served in Viet Nam in the Navy, and I remember "Hanoi Jane". I remember very well.

Phil

Gearhead99
01-05-2003, 08:46 AM
I too served in Vietnam in the Air Force. KC-135's and B-52's.

Sure to remember Hanoi Jane. Just a Bitch and traitor.

I've go NO TIME FOR HER.

Nuf said........

Digger
01-05-2003, 09:36 AM
thx for posting that Scot

olredalert
01-05-2003, 11:41 AM
------One of the 100 most despised,hated women of the last century,in my opinion!!!!!!And she deserves every bit of hatred we can muster..........Bill S.........ol red!

Sam
01-05-2003, 07:41 PM
DITTO !!!!!!!!!!!

goatee
01-05-2003, 11:41 PM
a long time ago i heard about her actions enough for me to know what a stupid , ignorant bitch she was! but never in that much detail. thanks for the post
but most of all,,,, thank you for your service
and patriotism! one and all!!!!!!

Terry0341
01-05-2003, 11:55 PM
My Father was a Medivac (Dustoff) Pilot in Nam, He told me many stories. I will pass this on to everyone I know ASAP! Thank you to everyone who served and those who are defending our country now!

Walt. H.
01-06-2003, 02:03 AM
Scott, I'm 50 yr's old, I graduated HS. in june of 1970! I too remember well. It just goes to show Time Doesn't Heal All Things!! But you can look at yourself square in the mirror and like who you are! I don't believe she can. Hey who's going to present her with the award>Rosie O'don-anal?The people that count in our live's know who she is. Carry On Brother!!!

goatee
01-06-2003, 10:16 AM
the sad thing is,, she probably still thinks she was right!!!!! and uses things like baby killing stuff to justify it! these freakin bleeding heart liberals! they are so fast to tell you how wrong you are, but never have an answer to the question " how else?"!
i'm not saying ignorant people cant learn,,,,
i just think once your so far down the path,,,
people like that never learn!

goatee
01-06-2003, 10:21 AM
others may say "well we lost" it was all a waste of time!
bull****! we stood up to communism in a jungle halfway around the world for years!
you know that sent a clear message
if it didnt happen?
-would the wall have come down in the late 80's?
-would russia still be in tact?
whos to say? all i know is, it was freedom fighting communism! and thats NOT a waste of time

MOP
01-07-2003, 01:31 PM
Hi Scot that E-Mail I sent you on the 3rd. Has gone out to my entire mailing list. I have just pasted this one and did a Ditto. I hate that BITCH!