HOT DONZI'S

[GEOO]

I was thinking of all the repowers and outdrive upgrades we did this past year.
Let's post our Boat Model, Modifications, Engine, Prop, Outdrive, Performance, Controllability/Driveability. Maybe someone could make a spread sheet of our rides. This may help others to set up their boats.

How about the Speedy little 16 with the Alpha SS. Or the 22ZX with a Supercharged 454. The Big Block 18 with the OMC. 18's with Alpha SS. Radical Cammed 388 GT. Big block supercharged in Georgia. 18 with 5.7 MPI 300hp BlackHawk, and all the other Donzi's. GEOO

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[Frank Civitano]

1998 Donzi 22 ZX 454/510HP procharged at 5psi. New Exhaust Stainless Marine, Gill tips 15 1/4 x 30 pitch lab finished Bravo 1 prop. 78.9mph gps radared at 78 ran the shoot out in a 1/4 mile run at 72mph. Up grades this year. waiting for Imco steering advandage.

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Frank Civitano

[GEOO]

1975,
X-18,
18',
83mph (GPS) @ 5600rpm,
GEOO,
Fairfield, CT,
Mighty Mouse,
434ci,
575 hp,
Arneson,
1.31:1,
Rolla four blade cleaver Prop,
14" x 24",
Freshwater Cooled, MPI, Stainless Marine Exhaust, Solid Roller Cam, Alum. Heads,
Comfortable at WOT, However no transmission(use the paddle docking method)



[This message has been edited by GEOO (edited 01-25-2001).]

[harbormaster]

George, You left out "no reverse or neutral"
You get the prize for the biggest "cods"

[RickR]

Posting for Reddog

1990
18 Classic
18
73.4(GPS) @ 5300rpm
Reddog
Knoxville,TN
Boat Name?
Single
454
420HP
OMC King Cobra
1.43/1
Reworked 22 Raker
IMCO Exuaust, Holly 830, Roller Rockers

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RICKR
mailto:riggerb@aol.comriggerb@aol.com</A>

[GeneD]

Wait!!!
We might want to put this in it's own little spot. This thread will be lost in the massive archives we have been accumulating.
MP is right, make a spread sheet, have everyone fill it out and post on a separate page for ready viewing.
This will be cool!

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GeneD
007
Melbourne, Florida

[waleyetwo]

how come i can't get that format of the spredsheet

[waleyetwo]

1972 x-18 18ft 78.1 gps at 4750 waleye bedford NH name none, #of engines 1 1999 5.7 350 mpi,hp 300 at prop, drive is a 1999 blackhawk, drive ratio is 1.65, props are mercs, pitch is 32x2 i have some new props that will hopfully get me 250 more rpms boat handel's well.hydrolic steering is nice.but the boat don't like slow speeds.

[GEOO]

Gene, I think MP has offered to compile the data for us?? GEOO

[RedDog]

1990
18 Classic
18
73.4(GPS) @ 5300rpm
Reddog
Knoxville,TN
Boat Name: Genuine Trouble
Single
454
420HP
OMC King Cobra
1.43/1
Reworked 22 Raker
IMCO Exhaust, Holly 830, Roller Rockers

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Thanks Rick - new name added

Reddog
mailto:tsfloyd@bigfoot.comtsfloyd@bigfoot.com</A>

[Len]

...so that's what Waleyetwo turns...4750 rpms and 78mph!!!Imagine another 500 rpm's and 50 HP. Watch out Geoo! 'dem Blackhawks must cook pretty good.

[CDMA]

Yeah len watch out that boat just might be quicker than yours too...

[Looped]

Zing! Oh wait a minute, mine has a seized motor in it and I still need to pick the boat up this Saturday. Maybe I’ll keep quiet on this posting. Top speed is: Zeerrrooo.

Craig

[Forrest]

1972
Ski Sporter
16
66 MPH @ 4700 RPM
Forrest
Tallahassee, FL
Littl' Green
Single engine
302 CID
290 HP (Engine Analyzer v3.0)
Alpha One SS
1.5:1 ratio
Merc Outboard Cleaver
23" pitch
1991 Ford 302 flat-tappet block and cast crank, open chamber 69cc heads (intake gasket matched), KB116 dome pistons (9.4:1 CR), Crane H-272-2, Edelbrock Performer 289 intake, Holley 450 CFM vacuume secondary carb, half closed cooling systen w/160-degree thermostat, Kodiak aluminum exhaust and risers. Total time: 11 hrs.

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Forrest

[Oliver]

Greetings from Germany!
I did it ...
and Scot got Pictures of my baby----

[This message has been edited by Oliver (edited 01-25-2001).]

[Bryan Tuvell]

1999
22ZX
66 MPH, top speed was 69 on GPS @ 5200 RPM
Bryan Tuvell
Eastern Shore, VA
Eddy's Dream
350 MAG
300 HP
Alpha 1 Second generation
1:1.62
Merc Bravo I
24 SS

[GEOO]

Len, No worry's. The motor should turn 6000-6200 rpms. I have had it up to 5800 but no GPS to confirm speeds. I'm also having the prop reworked to get more rake to create more bow lift. http://www.donzi.net/ubb/smile.gif http://www.donzi.net/ubb/smile.gif GEOO

[This message has been edited by GEOO (edited 01-25-2001).]

[Dalelama]

1987
Minx
20'
60 mph @ 4800 (GPS)
Dale Evans
Miami, FL
350ci Mercruiser
320hp Fuel Injected
Alpha I
1:5.0
21 SS
SHOWROOM STOCK!



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Dale Evans
Miami, FL
'87 Minx / 320 EFI

[Ranman]

1997
18 Classic
18.0"
69 @ 5000
Randy Oak
Redford, MI
N/A
1
350 / 5.7L
300
Bravo One
1.62
Mercury Mirage SS
25P

[Oliver]

Geetings from Germany
here is my reply To your HOT DONZI-Article,sorry for my bad english
I send Scot Some Pictures of mine baby!


1971
16 Skisporter
16
~130 km/h @ 6000 1/min
Oliver (Germany)
Wiesbaden
R&R
single
orig. 69 Corvette 5.7 ccm
350 ps / 450 Nm
Volvo Penta 280
Ratio: soon
In the Moment Michigan 27" cupped
search an better (&gt;6000 rpm)
TitanRods,Pistons from DragRacing 0.30mm oversized,Kurbelwelle
feingewuchtet, 3,3° RollerCamshafts,Own designed 13.3:1 Condesation Heads with bigger
Valves, 125 Octane Fuel, Exhaust:Glenwood-Aluminium with Risers,2 110cm Over
Water Outlets, 98 dezibel in stay, Ex-Nascar-Holley,Polished Edelbrock Inlet, 32°
advanced at 1200rpm, , Freshwater with manual Thermostat, 30 cm Long Hydr.-TrimFlaps, FeetThrottle, HyDraulic Steering, no Reverse, Qickstop; Drive must rebuilt every 2
Seasons (Re-Entrys),Engine when necessary;best Handling with full GasTank and 2
or 3 Persons on board

[Blewbyu]

After GEOO-I ain't puttin' down any more perf. info on my 74 X-18.Dammit-mine's prettier than GEOO's though......!

[PeteL]

Year: 1998
Model Classic
LOA 22
MPH @RPM 77@3400 (tach being checked)
Member Name PeteL
Location New Jersey
Boat Name WetteVette (tentitive)
Nbr engines 1
Displacement 502
HP 415
Drive (s) type Bravo 1
Drive Ratio unk
Prop (s) types Mirage (sp)

[Oliver]

I translate this with babelfish--------sounds it good ?

To Geetings from Germany here is my reply to your HOT DONZI Article, sorry for my bath english I transmit Scot Some Pictures OF mine baby! 1971 16 Skisporter 16 ~130 km/h @ 6000 1/min of olive (Germany) Wiesbaden R&R single orig. 69 Corvette 5,7 ccm 350 HP / 450 Nm Volvo Penta 280 Ratio: soon into the moment Michigan 27 " cupped search at more better (&gt; 6000 rpm) TitanRods, Pistons from DragRacing 0.30mm oversized, crankshaft fine-heaved, 3,3° RollerCamshafts, Own designed 13.3:1 Condesation Heads with bigger Valves, 125 Octane Fuel, Exhaust:Glenwood aluminum with Risers, 2 110cm Over Water Outlets, 98 decibels in stay, ex-Nascar-Holley, Polished noble-break Inlet into, 32° advanced RK 1200rpm, Freshwater with manual thermostat, 30 cm Long hydraulic TrimFlaps, FeetThrottle, HyDraulic Steering, NO Reverse, Qickstop; Drive must rebuilt every 2 Seasons (RH-Entrys), engine when necessary;best handling with full gas tank and 2 or 3 person on board

[Frank Civitano]

Year=1998
Model= ZX
Loa= 22.3
MPH= 78.9mph radar
Member name= Frank Civitano
Location= Toms River, NJ
Boat name= Shanghi Surprize
NBR= 1 engine
Displace= 454
H/P= 510 ATP
Drive= Bravo 1
Ratio 1.5
Pitch= 30

[Voodoocanoe]

Voodoocanoe II
Lake St.Clair MI
1966
Skisporter
16'
69'351W
Turbocharged
Volvo 270T
1.43:1
"E"lower w/merc splines
14X31 Kiekhaefer prop
Bennett tabs
Speed=??
Boat will be undergoing a total restoration

[Tony]

1967
Ski Sporter
16'7"
58 mph @ 6,000 rpm's
Tony Sporer
Portland, MI
"Sweet Sixteen"
single engine
302 Ford
300 hp
Volvo AQ200B
1.59:1
Aluminum
14" x 23"

[J&K SHAHBAS]

1970
Hornet
19'
74 @ 5200
J & K Shahbas
Arizona / Florida
"WA - LO"
1
565CID FORD
810 @ 6lb Boost 905 @ 8.5lb
V-Drive
29% Overdrive
Menkins
13.5 x 18"
This should show you the kind of horse power you need with a V-Drive set up. Not very efficient with this type of Hull, but I would'nt trade it for anything!

[GEOO]

http://www.donzi.net/ubb/eek.gif http://www.donzi.net/ubb/eek.gif GEOO

[Bryan Tuvell]

Geoo, I may have missed a post or two, so what is the plan for a drive? Just curious?
Good luck and keep us posted, I am sure all the readers are interested in knowing.
I hope to meet you in person at the KY round up!
R/Bryan

[GeneD]

Okay, I'll bite!

Year: Early 1966
Model: 18-2+3
LOA: 18 Ft.
MPH @RPM: 62-63? @ 4400RPM
Member Name: GeneD
Location: Melbourne, Florida
Boat Name: 007 Racing Team
Nbr engines: 1
Displacement: 350 Cu. In.
HP: 260 HP?
Drive (s) type: Alpha SS
Drive Ratio: 1.5 upper, 1.68 lower
Prop (s) types: Mirage Plus
Pitch: 25 x 14.75
Any other details you might want added, such as Franks, "supercharged": 4" exhaust tips, SST risers w/1" spacers

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GeneD
007
Melbourne, Florida

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[RickR]

1995
22 Classic
22
67.4 GPS@ 4800rpm
RickR
East Tennessee
Genuine Risk
1
454
350
Bravo
1.50
Mirage Plus
23*14/5/8
Gaffrig air cleaner, Gil Exhaust


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RICKR
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[CDMA]

18 classic 2+3
1968 Barrelback
350 Chevy
260 hp
Volvo 280 with nosecone
58 mph @5000
14x22 Volvo ultra
completly restored
yellow

In the middle of a Alpha swap. As well as some power upgrades.

1987 22 Classic
No engine
No drive
80 mph behind my truck

Will start the BBC/ Arneson drive package over the summer. As well as complete restoration.

Chris

[Frank Civitano]

Gene. You can always take my motor and put in your boat, Change your name from 007 racing team to Color Me Gone and drag race Geo. http://www.donzi.net/ubb/eek.gif http://www.donzi.net/ubb/eek.gif

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Frank Civitano

[Jamesbon]

1971
GT 21
21
?? MPH @ 5500 rpm (need pito tube/GPS..will edit when available)
Jamesbon (Nathan Schlaeppi)
St. Petersburg, FL
Bikini Holder
1
388 C.I. (stroker Chevy)
400-500 (guesstimate)
Volvo 270
?? ratio (I'll find out and edit)
15 X 24 Nibral 3 blade
.540 Roller cam, 10:1 c.r., GM Fast Burn heads, FWC, Stainless marine long tube exhaust, Victor Vortec intake, Q-Jet carb, Mallory Unilite Ignition.

[Richard]

Scott, here is one that will lower your averages. Maybe another factor to consider would be weight. This shows the result of a light boat ( appx 1300 lbs.) and low HP.
1967
Baby 14' runabout
14'5"
50 mph (on gps)@4600 rpm
C. Weaver
Maine
Blue Bird
single engine
181 CI
130 hp
alpha 1
1.84:1
Stilletto
21 pitch
runs better in cold damp weather, The needle of the old merc tach stuck on 5000 at lake george in the rain.

[Varyak]

2001
18 Classic (2+3)
18' whatever
70 mph @ 4500RPM indicated = 66.0 mph GPS, has 5200 rpm redline, but I can't drive that fast and hold GPS at the same time.
Varyak
Jacksonville, FL
377 cubes
320 HP, with through-hull exhaust
2001 B1P drive
1.65 ratio
Mirage Plus 25P
Checked every box on the order form except windshield and radio; wind in the face, music from the motor. Installed "Panic" botton on dash in front of passenger (makes them feel like they have some sort of control). Botton actually does nothing but make me laugh at the sissy's.
Mark

[Varyak]

Forgot to add, boat name is "LAST TANGO" and also carries my team racing logos of "Thundertub Motorsports"
Mark

[Varyak]

Forgot to add that the boat name is "LAST TANGO" and also carries my team racing logos of "Thundertub Motorsports"
Mark

[Varyak]

Thanks MudPuddle.
I needed that. It was the Page Two thing that got me. Didn't see my reply the first time it hit (it had started page two). Thought it didn't go.

[BigGrizzly]

Sorry Varyak, thats not the last tango, its only the second tango. Don't care what you told the BOSS.
Randy

[GEOO]

Let's get some more info!!!! Let's hear about the 260 hp Volvo's, Alpha's etc. We want to get a large spreadsheet together for future references. This will help others setting up their boats. GEOO

[FrequentFlyer]

Year: 1983
Model: 2+3
LOA: 18'
MPH@RPM 55@4500
Location: LI NY
Displ: 350 cid
HP: 260
Drive type: Alpha
Drive Ratio: ???
Prop Type: Mirage SS
Pitch: 21

[BigGrizzly]

Year: 1971
Model: 18 Corsican
LOA: 18'
MPH@RPM 67@5200 (will pull 5600 )
Location: Roswell Ga
Displ: 351 cid (Ford Clevland)
HP: 380-&gt;425 (600cfm Holley 4010)
Drive type: Volvo 290
Drive Ratio: 1.63?
Prop Type: Ron Hill
Pitch 23 Thrasher (Over hub wide blade)
CMI sport tube hedders, Babe Erson cam 600 cfm Holley 4010.

[This message has been edited by BigGrizzly (edited 02-04-2001).]

[doug]

Year: 1987
Model: 2+3
LOA: 18'
MPH 70+
RPM 6000
Location: Irish Hill MI.
Displ: 350
HP: 410
Drive type: Alpha SS
Drive Ratio: 1.5 ?
Prop Type: Hydromotive
Pitch 22 4 blade
Name Old Yeller

[This message has been edited by doug (edited 02-04-2001).]

[Varyak]

BigG,
Oh, how I fear you are exactly right. Can you say, "But Dear, they aren't the same which is why a need BOTH a Classic and a ZX!"
Varyak

[BigGrizzly]

Varyak, shee is a beautiful lady with great kids , but I bet she has big claws, so be carefull with that line. Wives have a book of lines and that one is on page 57. I know I have beem there.

Randy

[harbormaster]

test

[EricG]

Since you also need a some of us on the other end of the speed spectrum:

1988
Z21
22.5'
53@4500 (Est. Speedo says 58)
EricG
Seattle, WA
DRAGON LADY II
350 C.I.D.
270 H.P.
Alpha
1.5:1
S.S. Cleaver
21
Other Details: Side Exit Exhaust, and it may be slow - but it's got a bed!!

EG

[Mark Nelson]

1998
21 LXR
21
58 @4800 (62 speedometer)
Mark Nelson
Lake Jackson, Tx
Boat Name - none
350 cid
270
Alpha
1:5
Vengeance
19

Thru-hull exhaust, bazooka subwoofers/amps, throws a nice wake (ramp) at 2100, great family boat

[boldts]

I was under the impression you guys wanted the hot speed set-up Donzi. As I read the posts, it appears you want everyone's specs. Should make a nice addition to the registry pages. My 69' won't be the fastest, but it's a heck of an ego trip at the launch ramp.

1969
Classic 2+3
18
Speedo says 48@5000
boldts
Canal Winchester, OH
None
1
302
280 ?
250 Volvo
1.61
Round ear 3 blade SS (Best speed improvement piece so far.)
22" with all the cup we could put in it.

Added a Hydromotive nosecone when I didn't know I didn't need it. Should have bought a prop from those folks. Replaced the Distributor, Carb with a 600CFM Holley, K&N Filter, No speed, but a wonderful improvement - Bilt-Rite interior.

Scott Boldt

[Forrest]

Scott,

I was all ready to post the results from the second shakedown run I made Friday of my X-18, but the dang MerTrans II TRS started to slip after about an a half hour use. We saw 55 MPH on the GPS while the RPMs were still climbing before the the transmission let loose. After reading my Mercruiser repair book, it looks like I'm not getting enough oil pressure to the clutch pack probably from me damaging a teflon seal when I put it all back together. You know, I can't stand these transmissions since parts are rare, and what parts are still available, Mercury bends you over big time for them. I haven't decide what I going to do yet, but I haven't ruled out sending the transmission out to someone who has more experience than I do with this beast. I just want to avoid getting bent over on this thing any more necessary.

1977
X-18
16
?? MPH @ ???? RPM
Forrest
Tallahassee, FL
no name
Single engine
383 CID
??? HP
TRS (RH)
1.5:1 ratio
Kiekhaefer over-hub Offshore Cleaver
23" pitch
Wheeler Motor Sports preped block, 5.7" rods, KB Claimer hyperutectic flat-top pistons (http://www.kb-silvolite.com/Claimer/Chevy%20383%27s.html), 76cc "441" heads (9.8:1 compression), Crane H-272-2 cam (http://dab7.cranecams.com/SpecCard/DisplayCatalogCard.asp?PN=113941), Weiand Stealth dual-plane intake, 600 CFM Holley carb, Gil exhaust

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Forrest

[This message has been edited by Forrest (edited 02-12-2001).]

[GEOO]

Forest, Try calling some of the aftermarket marine transmission shops. I think they make high performance parts for you tranny. Or you could put a GEOO tranny in. I'll personally guaranty you won't have a transmission failures. GEOO

[anotherScott]

1975
classic 2+3
18'
60@5200
Brick,NJ
no name
351 Ford GT40
350
Alpha
1.5
clever
21"

Light blue original gelcoat, new bilt-rite interior.

[Scubado]

Had the boat out today thought I would post the specs. This boat is completely stock. Sorry I didn't get it in sooner, I just haven't had much time on the water with it yet. I don't think I can wait for the warranty to run out before I start looking for more HP. Any suggestions? Procharger, Whipple, or ?????

Year: 2000
Model: 22ZX
LOA: 22.3
MPH: 63ish
RPM: 5000
Member: Jeff Leipham
City: Phoenix
State: AZ
Boat Name: none
CID: 350 MAG
Power: 300 HP
Drive: Alpha 1
Ratio: 1.62
Prop: Bravo 1
Pitch: 24

[elramone]

1994
22 Classic
73mph@4800
stock crate 502 BB carbed
Gil custom exhaust
Bravo 1
25 pitch four blade stainless
Out on Lake St. Clair by Detroit, Mich.
Loves eating ill equiped fountains

[roadtrip]

Originally posted by elramone:
1994
22 Classic
73mph@4800
stock crate 502 BB carbed
Gil custom exhaust
Bravo 1
25 pitch four blade stainless
Out on Lake St. Clair by Detroit, Mich.
Loves eating ill equiped fountains
Hey Elramone,
I also own a recent vintage 22 Classic with a 502. Great ride isn't it?
In regards to your Fountain comments, never bring a knife to a gun fight. I have owned three Fountains. 1996 27 fever with 500 HP, GPS at 76. 1997 32 fever with twin 800 SC, radar at 115.7. 1999 32 fever with twin 500 HP, GPS 88.5. You might beat a 27 with a 502, they only run 67-69, but that is about it; unless the guy at the wheel of the fountain has more money than boating sense. So quit your bragging!
Now, when it comes to Bajas, that is a whole other story. I keep looking for places to put a notch every time I blow one of those go-fast bayliners out of the water. Roadtrip says pick your battles wisely and with wisdom. Peace, Todd


[This message has been edited by roadtrip (edited 03-02-2001).]

[RickR]

elramone
Which 502 crate did you install?
Any up upgrades other than the exhaust?
Which Gils did you use?
Was the 73 GPS?
Thanks

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RICKR
mailto:riggerb@aol.comriggerb@aol.com</A>

[Tom on Lanier]

Scott - here's where "Tomahawk" is at, as of last fall:
1996
22 Classic
22'6"
67-68 mph @5000rpm GPS (light load)
Tom Riggle (Tom on Lanier)
Lake Lanier, GA
"Tomahawk"
Single Engine
454cid
350 hp
Bravo 1
1.5:1
Mercury Mirage Plus
23" pitch

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Tom
"Tomahawk"

[Forrest]

. . . I'm starting to like the GEOO tranny idea more and more!

Forward - turn key to start
Neutral - turn key to off
Reverse - use paddle

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Forrest

[elramone]

Roadtrip;
I can relate to what your saying... cause we all know no one has more trophies than Reggie. And of course he makes some of the finest offshore vessels in the world... but I did say "ill equiped fountains" of which there are many.... where as they are an easy target. I also feel that Reggie has one huge bummer in his life.... since Don is gone... he can never be king... and because this is a DONZI board... I feel its ok to tote a knife in a gun fight. As for picking battles wisely.... I guess thats a guesstimation of the oppenents equipment from a distance.... so dont look at it as bragging... but rather enjoying taking down fountains. My 22 isnt even really that fast. I have a great bud with an 83 mph 18 Donz... I would never be ashamed to own a Fountain... in fact.. Id like to have one some day... but ist STILL fun to humiliate a guy who just spent 140K on a boat he felt would be the whip out in public. Besides roadtrip.. its kinda obvious who's got the hot ones... even from a distance... IST IT?

Originally posted by roadtrip:

Originally posted by elramone:
1994
22 Classic
73mph@4800
stock crate 502 BB carbed
Gil custom exhaust
Bravo 1
25 pitch four blade stainless
Out on Lake St. Clair by Detroit, Mich.
Loves eating ill equiped fountains
Hey Elramone,
I also own a recent vintage 22 Classic with a 502. Great ride isn't it?
In regards to your Fountain comments, never bring a knife to a gun fight. I have owned three Fountains. 1996 27 fever with 500 HP, GPS at 76. 1997 32 fever with twin 800 SC, radar at 115.7. 1999 32 fever with twin 500 HP, GPS 88.5. You might beat a 27 with a 502, they only run 67-69, but that is about it; unless the guy at the wheel of the fountain has more money than boating sense. So quit your bragging!
Now, when it comes to Bajas, that is a whole other story. I keep looking for places to put a notch every time I blow one of those go-fast bayliners out of the water. Roadtrip says pick your battles wisely and with wisdom. Peace, Todd


[This message has been edited by roadtrip (edited 03-02-2001).]

[elramone]

Hey Rick... thanks for the reply.
The boats a riot... we have tons of fun beating the **** out of ourselves... The motors a mercruiser Chevy.. and the Gils are wet offshore with custom fit risers. I also had the tips shotgunned and cut a little longer. I took out the silent choice of course to eliminate wieght. In fact.. its for sale on the sale board. I have another that Im restoring and a good friend with a smaller 18 that I can ride with this year. Im goin kinda nuts on lake property this year... and am toning down on toys.

Originally posted by RickR:
elramone
Which 502 crate did you install?
Any up upgrades other than the exhaust?
Which Gils did you use?
Was the 73 GPS?
Thanks

[roadtrip]

Hey madpoodle,
Better late than never, but I was still breaking her in:

Year: 2001
Model: Classic
LOA: 22
MPH: 73-75
RPM: 4800
Member: Todd Somerville
City: Fort Worth
State: TX
Boat Name: Roadtrip
CID: 502 MPI
Power: 415 HP
Drive: Bravo 1
Ratio: 1.51
Prop: Mirage Plus
Pitch: 25

[roadtrip]

Hey Elramone,
I am not trying to start a forum on the qualities of Reggie or his boats. I was just stating the obvious fact that you had better have one potent Donzi Classic to take a Fountain out. Now, that being said, why don't you and your buddy load that 83 mph 18 Classic up on May 11 and head south to Cumberland for the Annual Awakening of the Horses gathering. You, your buddy, some other twenty-plus Donzi owners, and I will sharpen our knives and go find a fountain or two to slay. I may be a little behind you, but I will be smiling the whole way....



Originally posted by elramone:
Roadtrip;
I can relate to what your saying... cause we all know no one has more trophies than Reggie. And of course he makes some of the finest offshore vessels in the world... but I did say "ill equiped fountains" of which there are many.... where as they are an easy target. I also feel that Reggie has one huge bummer in his life.... since Don is gone... he can never be king... and because this is a DONZI board... I feel its ok to tote a knife in a gun fight. As for picking battles wisely.... I guess thats a guesstimation of the oppenents equipment from a distance.... so dont look at it as bragging... but rather enjoying taking down fountains. My 22 isnt even really that fast. I have a great bud with an 83 mph 18 Donz... I would never be ashamed to own a Fountain... in fact.. Id like to have one some day... but ist STILL fun to humiliate a guy who just spent 140K on a boat he felt would be the whip out in public. Besides roadtrip.. its kinda obvious who's got the hot ones... even from a distance... IST IT?

[GEOO]

Todd,

What's in your friends 18, to go 83mph!!!
GEOO

[GeneD]

Oh man, this is starting to sound like my buddies in High School...
"No...a Z-28 with a 302 will beat the hell out of a Mustang with a 351...blah blah blah..."
Come on!!!
Fountains are Fountains and right now, they hold every single V hull record going. I am an Aronow freak, but you just gotta give the Fountain corporation some credit.
Of course a guy with a hot engine is going to beat a lot of the boats out there, I would expect it! Let's get off the Offshoreonly.com mentality!
Hey GEOO,
I was listening to a conversation recently where your boat was touted as going over 100 MPH!!!!
Congratulations big fella!
I did question the guy and he admitted to overstating the HP and speed. Of course, when I identified myself, the truth came out!
Funny!!!!!
Oh, and no offense intended, hope none taken.
It's only me...
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GeneD
007
Melbourne, Florida

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[roadtrip]

GeneD,
I'm sorry man. I probably should have just let this guy go on about how his 22 Classic eats fountains, but I just couldn't after spending many hours running these boats. I am a Donzi convert, but let's stick to the truth here now. If Mike Miller brings a 33 Daytona with 500HPs to the AOTH, you aren't going to hear me bragging afterwards about how I outran him.
Geeo,
Then elramone starts talking about his buddy's 18 that runs 83 mph. Not me. I openly invite him to bring that boat down to AOTH and we should be able to hunt down fountains all day with it. Until then, it's just talk...
In the meantime, I've got this tricked out Mustang Cobra that will run a Z-28 into the... okay, I'll stop now. todd

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[elramone]

Man.... you guys are tough.... I dont think I could run against guys like you. I have to admit Im shocked by a couple things.,...1) you think 73 in a classic is bragging 2) you get upset at the thought of any fountains not able to exceed 73 mph 3) and someone is lying if they know of a Donzi that does 83 mph. Us motor city nuts have always been off based... havent we.... if we got out more we could meet more guys like you who know everything. Im just pulling you guys string.. so dont get snippy... but we really shouldnt be arguing anyway??? I was just listing the boat... period... I dont blame you for not believing me.. I usually dont believe half what I read either. The 18 is a bow tie small chevy... built ... never dyno'd.. but probably in the 425 hp range... with an alpha "believe it or not" and of course.. no extra baggage.

Originally posted by roadtrip:
GeneD,
I'm sorry man. I probably should have just let this guy go on about how his 22 Classic eats fountains, but I just couldn't after spending many hours running these boats. I am a Donzi convert, but let's stick to the truth here now. If Mike Miller brings a 33 Daytona with 500HPs to the AOTH, you aren't going to hear me bragging afterwards about how I outran him.
Geeo,
Then elramone starts talking about his buddy's 18 that runs 83 mph. Not me. I openly invite him to bring that boat down to AOTH and we should be able to hunt down fountains all day with it. Until then, it's just talk...
In the meantime, I've got this tricked out Mustang Cobra that will run a Z-28 into the... okay, I'll stop now. todd

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[GeneD]

Gee, it just gets worse and worse!!!
Naw, really...there is an 18 out there that does 80+.
I think 73 MPH is a fantastic speed for an 18.
Mine used to go over/about 70 MPH with my old engine, now defunct of course. My new 260 isn't a neck braker, but it will do over 60 MPH, barely.
I make no bones about who I race, it really don't matter. If I think I can give him/her a good race, I'll go for it. Make don't make a difference. Most of these boats now are capable of lots of speed, long as the motor can put out some HP.
I have no idea where we are going in this discussion but I think we have beat it to death.
Let's get out, ride our machines and enjoy!

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GeneD
007
Melbourne, Florida

[elramone]

It pains me to type this... but I can not tell a lie... I called on the 18 cause I knew he had it radar'd and it ran 77-78 mph. I figured I better clarify just in case we did make it to the AOTH. Wew... it feels better already to clear my soul. I knew it beat the **** out of mine though.

Originally posted by roadtrip:
GeneD,
I'm sorry man. I probably should have just let this guy go on about how his 22 Classic eats fountains, but I just couldn't after spending many hours running these boats. I am a Donzi convert, but let's stick to the truth here now. If Mike Miller brings a 33 Daytona with 500HPs to the AOTH, you aren't going to hear me bragging afterwards about how I outran him.
Geeo,
Then elramone starts talking about his buddy's 18 that runs 83 mph. Not me. I openly invite him to bring that boat down to AOTH and we should be able to hunt down fountains all day with it. Until then, it's just talk...
In the meantime, I've got this tricked out Mustang Cobra that will run a Z-28 into the... okay, I'll stop now. todd

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[GeneD]

Such language!
GeneD
007
Melbourne, Florida

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[BigGrizzly]

OK guys this is a data post not a free for all. You guys ar acting like you belong to the old Offshore only group. My dad is bigger than your dad. Just REMEMBER there is no such thing as the fastest boat. When the green flag drops the bull **** stops. The Donzi net is a fraternity of guys trying to help each other --Not a bar fight. This is starting to look bad to me. You want to beat a guy up --E-MAIL them don't do it in public. Here everyone on the net can see it.
My advice is 1) Grow up 2) go back and delete your junk 3) THINK before you type.
We need accurate numbers on this post to help each other out. No bull, you will be found out. Exhample there are two boats both are the same both have bravo drives and the same size prop. One is 10 mph faster than the other. Props can vary 1/2 inch pitch either way, this in no way is 10 mph. If you don't know then state it. Your not running for office so be honest.

Randy

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[green16]

Year: 1968
Length: 16' Ski Sporter
Name: The Mean Green Hornet
Engine: Chevy SB 350 cu in
HP: I'm told about 350
Carb: Holley Double Pumper
Outdrive: Volvo Penta 290
Steering: Left Hand
Hynautic H50 hydrolic
Prop: Stainless I don't know the pitch I think I saw a 29 on it somewhere.
Top Speed: ?? I'm told 70 but I haven't seen it yet. Only a tachometer that I've had to 5200. Tach goes up to 5500

[AIRGRADY]

Here goes

Year: 1976
Model: Hornet
LOA: 19 Ft.
MPH @RPM: gps 59 mph @ 5400RPM
Member Name: Grady O'Donnell
Location: Naples, Florida
No Name
Nbr engines: 1
Displacement: 454 cubic inch
HP: 400 HP?
Drive (s) type: V-Drive
Trans: Borg Warner 72
Prop (s) types: Three blade nibral
Pitch: 13 x 15




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[GEOO]

Scot, Can you change mine. 88.6 mph @ 5800 rpm's. GEOO

[PaulO]

Geoo!!!! Holy *&$#%! C'mon buddy, 90 is right there!! You owe me a ride. Last one I don't believe we passed 80!
PaulO

[Kent Perroux]

Here's mine as I run it.


Year: 1983
Model: 18 Classic 2+3
LOA: 18 Ft.
MPH @RPM: 63+ @ 4600 RPM
Member Name: Kent Perroux
Location: Orlando, Florida
Airtime
Nbr engines: 1
Displacement: 350 Cu. In.
HP: 370 HP @6000 rpm
Drive (s) type: Volvo 280
Trans: N/A
Prop (s) types: Merc Chopper
Pitch: 14.5 x 26

[GEOO]

PaulO, Call me next time you're in the CT area. Or maybe, I can run over to Port Jeff and pick you up. It's better if it warm's up alittle. GEOO

[green16]

Addition to my previous post:
1968
16 Ski Sporter
Small Block
The Mean Green Hornet
350Ci
350hp? I'm told
Volvo Penta 290 with a Cone
3 blade Stainless Steel Prop 29Pitch
It also has "S&S" stamped next to the 29. Does anyone know if that means Stainless Steel or if it is a manufacturer's name?
Speed: ?

[GEOO]

S&S propeller is a high performance prop shop out in Long Island. They may have made the prop. GEOO

[avk]

1999
Classic 18
18 ft
53 MPH@5200 rpm (6200 ft elevation)GPS
Alan Klingen
Lake Tahoe, Ca.
"Good Dog"
1 350 Mercruiser EFI
Mirage 15X21
Bennet tabs
Stock
I need a blower!!

[RickR]

avk
At 5200 you're probably hitting the rev-limiter. A different may give you more top end.

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RICKR
mailto:riggerb@aol.comriggerb@aol.com</A>

[Frank Civitano]

AVK. I would Try a 23 prop pitch. Or a 22 Bravo 4 blade You will gain about 5mph and lower your rpms to 4800-5000. That 350 should give you a little more.

[avk]

The boat came with a 22 pitch prop and it toped out at about 50mph at much lower revs. I also tried a 20 pitch one and more or less the same thing, but a slightly higher top speed. The big difference was the "hole shot" the 22 was a dog and the 15 was a rocket. I am about to use a Haltech E6KGM programable ECU in the boat to optimise the FI. At 6200ft I lose at least 25% hp.

[Sam]

1996
Sweet 16
56-57mph(gps) @4400-4500 rpm
Sam Pilato
5.7 Ltr 2 BRL
220hp
Alpha Drive
14x21 SS

[DONZIMAN2]

Went to the factory last week. Looks like the new 26ZX is on schedule. May be the newest Donzi on the lake. Supposed to be here on 1 May. Power is the 496HO. No real test data on this package yet. Hopefully the graphics/paint I had put on it won't slow it down to much. I guess we will have to see following the breakin period on the lake is finished.

[GeneD]

Scott,
I just don't know how you can make these posts at un-Donly hours of the morning, but I can never reach you at work until after 10 AM!!!!!
I worked on Saturday, watched Indy on Sunday (was the winner HAPPY or what?) vegged on Monday.

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GeneD
007
Melbourne, Florida

[Donzitester]

Madpoodle,
Sorry Scott, I sold the 18 yesterday
so I wont be registering it. But when the 22
is done..........bye the way, thank you for the compliment!!

[marcdups]

wish there were more specs on sweet sixteens, any one know if a thru hull exhaust will help?? or captains choice, although I ate a 20' mariah with a 454 this week end, I want more speed??

boat: sweet sixteen
name: P.....MAG!!
motor:4.3 merc HO
prop:21 laser2, not worked on YET
trim tabs: yes
speed:full gas one person GPS67.4
rpm,s:5200
drive:merc alpha 1
how does it ride: like a champ, racing you sometimes need a good set of balls specially on a following wake!!!!!
any imput fron any one of you guys will be treasured and hopefully implented, trying to keep engine stock though, although slight mods for more speed would be greatly appreciated, thanks in advance, marc

[Inevitable]

1987
Z-29
28'5"
72 MPH 4900RPM
Inevitable
Toledo, Ohio
Inevitable
2 x 454 mags
330 hp each
Alpa 1 with nose cones and drive showers
SS Raptures
25 pitch

[RedDog]

What did I do for the weekend? I got Genuine Trouble rev'ed up as fast as I've ever gone in a boat - what a blast http://www.donzi.net/ubb/biggrin.gif. Luckily the city police boat I didn't notice http://www.donzi.net/ubb/eek.gif and blew past at WOT didn't seem too upset. All I could do was smile and make a quick wave goodbye!

Also blew off some Formula/Baja/something big and ugly http://www.donzi.net/ubb/rolleyes.gif - he thought he was alone and really moving until he saw my tailpipes going away.

Madpoodle - is your hot boat spread sheet still available? There was a link to it once but now I can't find it.

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mailto:tsfloyd@bigfoot.comtsfloyd@bigfoot.com</A>

[Moody Blu']

year: 1971
loa:18'
name: Moody BLU
color: sky blue
engine: ford 351w (balanced assembly)
intake:edelbrock performer rpm(wil convert to air gap intake soon once I take a dremel to the intake)
carb:edelbrock 750 cfm(needs some tinkering)
drive:volvo 250
mph:55-56 @4600 rpm's (Gps)
extra special goodies: MSD 6t race ignition with MSD rev limiter(7000rpm chip), Accel super coil, MSD billet distributor,Lunati 1000-5000 rpm custom grinded cam
is it to late to put me on the spread sheet?
I hope not :)

[MR MAGOO]

What a great thread! I recently sold an 83 18 2+3, 280T (TRIM) Volvo, 350 Chevy eldlebrock performer intake and 650 carb, Mallory Unilite dist. 26p Vovlo stainless prop. All it would do is 58 on GPS, but it was too much fun and I want to steal it back from my buddy :mad: I wish I hadn`t sold it!

[MR MAGOO]

I have another friend who has a 26 Spitfire with twin 1987 320efi`S and Alpha SS drives on Land+Sea Stern jacks. It went pretty good.

[Rootsy]

might as well put my stuff in the right place

1997
16 Classic
57.1 GPS @ 5000 rpm (w/19 Vengence)
21 Mirage = 57.8 mph @ 4500 rpm
James Root
Monroe, Mi... Brooklyn, Mi for the summer!
No Name....
Single Engine
350 CID SBC Mercruiser
???? HP... i could guess... &gt;250?
Alpha 1 1.47 Rat.
19 P Vengence soooon --&gt; 21 Mirage +
Edelbrock Performer Intake
4150 Holley (List 80145 - modified of course) - 600 CFM
1.6 Ratio Comp Cams roller rockers
Autometer Accu-Comp gauges

[blackhawk]

Year: 1995
Model: Classic
LOA: 22
MPH @RPM: 78.6 @ 5000 rpm on GPS (2 people, 1/32 tank of gas, threw the cooler out to get the last .2 mph :D )
Member Name: Blackhawk
Location: MIchigan
Boat Name: 2BAD4U
Nbr engines:1
Displacement:502
HP: 415
Drive (s) type: Blackhawk
Drive Ratio: 1.5:1
Prop (s) types: Mercury
Pitch: 31

Longer K-planes have slowed me down a little this year but it is SO much nicer to drive. Time to add more power! Look out GEOO, here I come. :eek: Better get a second job, maybe a third. :D

[Digger]

Year: 1996
Model: 33ZX
LOA: 32'6"
MPH @RPM: 65mph@4900rpm
Member Name: Maj Matthew "Digger" Howard, USMC
Location: Stafford VA
Boat Name: Freedom II
Nbr engines: 2
Displacement: 502
HP: 415
Drive (s) type: Bravo One's
Drive Ratio: stock
Prop (s) types: Mirage SS
Pitch: 23

USCG hull # 1071006
Silent Choice
K-planes
McLeod bolsters/footrests
all the cabin dressing/appliances/head

ride is rock solid. good old fashioned 22 degree deadrise, straked hull, no steps or slots. Heavy, (~10,000 lbs) and sticky, but oh so stable and predictable. (thank you Jim Wynne)

[mattyboy]

year: 1968
model: ski/sporter
loa: 16
mph/rpm: 58@5000rpm gauge
location: greenwood lake NY
boat name: N/A
engine: 351 windsor holman moody edition 10:1 comp 300 hp
drive: volvo 250
ratio: 1:61:1
prop: ss spinelli with extra lift for skiing
size: 14x21
boat levelor tabs

Matt

[marcdups]

Scott, sreed on the P....MAG!! are actually 57.4 GPS in perfect conditions, hope to reach low sixtees next spring!!!

Marc

hope to have company next year so I can get out of that towel :D :D

[Kent Perroux]

MP,

18 Classic 2+3, 1983
Volvo 280T drive w/hydromotive nosecone
Prop: Spinelli 14x24 labbed and reworked
Engine: 350ci Chevy SB. Approx 350/370hp.
Hook removed, top secret minor hull mods.
Full fuel, no passengers

68mph @ 5500rpm

Time to make a low fuel run. Waiting on a cold front to see if I can get the magical 70.

[turbo2256]

Year: 1966
Model: Sweet 16
Engine: 302 twin turbo 10 LBS boost or less
HP: est 350+
Cam: Engle turbo cam
Torque: est 500+ LBS
Drive: Alpha SS
Ratio: unknown at this time
Gimble Hsg: I drive
Top speed: yet to hit the water
Prop: none yet
Name : none yet
Manifolds: stock merc log style

Currently the boats under construction but it hit about 45 with realy sad 260, Eaton drive and Mich 2 blade prop.

[mattyboy]

BTTF
Madpoodle maybe you can make this a bulleted item and keep it up top or make a new section
members performance numbers
Thank You

Matty

[Fish boy]

Cool thread; first time reading it. I may have missed it, but is there a spread sheet somewhere with all the figures?

[RedDog]

Spreadsheet (http://www.donzi.net/Reg_boats.html)

[Fish boy]

Thanks RedDog, very cool stuff.

Fish

[Fish boy]

Kind of like looking at old photo albums before hitting puberty... Geoo's Might mouse shows 80+mph rather than the bajillion (givel or take a trillion) mph he is running now :D

Any thoughts about doing a 2004 version of this? I think my title as the slowest donzi is still safe (other than Budmann's 22 :D ), but you never know. Maybe others have made significant improvements as well.

Fish

[mattyboy]

I think we need some hp updates
Rootsy is alot faster now too


Matty

[JimG]

Keep it going!

Year: 1970
Model: 18 2+3
Engine: HM 351
HP: HM says 290, really prolly 250 or so
Drive: Volvo 250 B
Ratio: 1.61
Top speed: 52.5 gps @ 5000rpm
Prop: 14 3/8 x 23 Michigan Aluminum
Manifolds: Edelbrock logs

Will update when I get the Ultra on! Hoping to see 55+